The "Chieftain" & Modern Day "Servant" Speaks To The 144,000!
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Watchtower February 2022, p. 2-7 During the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical. Of course, Jehovah will not speak to us personally. He will likely provide direction through his appointed representatives. That will hardly be the time to second-guess the direction or to view it with skepticism, wondering, ‘Is this really coming from Jehovah, or are the responsible brothers acting on their own?’ How will you fare during that crucial time in human history? The answer might be indicated by how you view theocratic direction now. If you trust the direction we receive today and readily obey, you will likely do the same during the great tribulation.
End of quote.
The part mentioned above, needs to be closely examined:
"Of course, Jehovah will not speak to us personally. He will likely provide direction through his appointed representatives. "
Jehovah will "likely provide" ... more NON inspired [guesswork] and human [mistake-prone] "direction" from His Earthly Representatives ...
Yes ... this is the type of garbage 9 million Jehovah's Witnesses, in 120,000 Congregations World Wide, have been feeding upon for close to 150 years ... they call it healthy, edifying spiritual "food" from the F&DS ... (Matt. 24:45)
And, if you object or don't wholeheartedly support or "go along with their wicked program," they [Governing Body] "disfellowship" you, or "remove" you from the congregation, just like the wicked, vile Pharisees cold-heartedly, mercilessly "expelled" any from the "synagogue," any who wished to listen and follow Jesus Christ's righteous teachings, that we know came straight from Jehovah, The "Most High." -- See Psalms 83:18; Matthew 15:8, 9; John 9:22; John 12:42.
But, is their [Governing Body] spiritual "food" ... really from Jehovah???
Or, is it really mistake-prone, humanistic ... GUESSWORK.
... You decide.
Watchtower February 2022, p. 2-7 During the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical. Of course, Jehovah will not speak to us personally. He will likely provide direction through his appointed representatives. That will hardly be the time to second-guess the direction or to view it with skepticism, wondering, ‘Is this really coming from Jehovah, or are the responsible brothers acting on their own?’ How will you fare during that crucial time in human history? The answer might be indicated by how you view theocratic direction now. If you trust the direction we receive today and readily obey, you will likely do the same during the great tribulation.
End of quote.
The part mentioned above, needs to be closely examined:
"Of course, Jehovah will not speak to us personally. He will likely provide direction through his appointed representatives. "
Jehovah will "likely provide" ... more NON inspired [guesswork] and human [mistake-prone] "direction" from His Earthly Representatives ...
Yes ... this is the type of garbage 9 million Jehovah's Witnesses, in 120,000 Congregations World Wide, have been feeding upon for close to 150 years ... they call it healthy, edifying spiritual "food" from the F&DS ... (Matt. 24:45)
And, if you object or don't wholeheartedly support or "go along with their wicked program," they [Governing Body] "disfellowship" you, or "remove" you from the congregation, just like the wicked, vile Pharisees cold-heartedly, mercilessly "expelled" any from the "synagogue," any who wished to listen and follow Jesus Christ's righteous teachings, that we know came straight from Jehovah, The "Most High." -- See Psalms 83:18; Matthew 15:8, 9; John 9:22; John 12:42.
But, is their [Governing Body] spiritual "food" ... really from Jehovah???
Or, is it really mistake-prone, humanistic ... GUESSWORK.
... You decide.
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In this video, the Watchtower Society says the teaching of 1975 was made up completely by the brothers, Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Society had noining to do with it. They are completely innocent of this terrific sin!
Would you accept this as an acceptable truthful recount of this horrific event, which has stumbled so many thousands of individuals over the years, I ask?
Do such ones after teaching the date of 1975 to the world in printed page, and then lying about it and instead shifting the blame of this situation on the JW brothers, properly represent the God of Truth before others? (Psalms 119:160)
Here is the Watchtower Society's video on who is the real blame for the false teaching of 1975: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGs300U2FQE
Also see this informative topic covered at Jehovah's Truth Discussion Board: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107
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In this video, the Watchtower Society says the teaching of 1975 was made up completely by the brothers, Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Society had noining to do with it. They are completely innocent of this terrific sin!
Would you accept this as an acceptable truthful recount of this horrific event, which has stumbled so many thousands of individuals over the years, I ask?
Do such ones after teaching the date of 1975 to the world in printed page, and then lying about it and instead shifting the blame of this situation on the JW brothers, properly represent the God of Truth before others? (Psalms 119:160)
Here is the Watchtower Society's video on who is the real blame for the false teaching of 1975: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGs300U2FQE
Also see this informative topic covered at Jehovah's Truth Discussion Board: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107
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What happens when a religion that preaches the urgency of the end of the world suddenly changes its mind?
In this video, we uncover the decline of Jehovah's Witnesses and the controversial 2025 doctrinal change that, ironically, may be accelerating their own downfall.
We analyze the most critical points of this transformation:
The "Second Chance" for Salvation: The new doctrine that allows for repentance and salvation after the Great Tribulation begins. How does this remove the urgency and fear that has always motivated followers?
The Strategy Behind the Doctrine: Discover how mounting legal pressures and lawsuits may have motivated this "new light" from the Watchtower, turning a theological decision into an act of corporate damage control.
The Great Admission: We analyze the shocking confession in a Watchtower publication, admitting that Armageddon may not come in the lifetime of current members. Is this the end of a century-old prophecy?
The Visible Decline: We explore the signs that the organization is in crisis, from the drop in membership numbers to the sale of Kingdom Halls around the world.
The Jehovah's Witnesses crisis is more than a rule change; it's an identity crisis. What happens to a group that built everything on a promise of urgency when that urgency disappears?
This video was released 1 month ago by Kingdom Wisdom on YouTube.
Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CECZXDpRR0&t=6s
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What happens when a religion that preaches the urgency of the end of the world suddenly changes its mind?
In this video, we uncover the decline of Jehovah's Witnesses and the controversial 2025 doctrinal change that, ironically, may be accelerating their own downfall.
We analyze the most critical points of this transformation:
The "Second Chance" for Salvation: The new doctrine that allows for repentance and salvation after the Great Tribulation begins. How does this remove the urgency and fear that has always motivated followers?
The Strategy Behind the Doctrine: Discover how mounting legal pressures and lawsuits may have motivated this "new light" from the Watchtower, turning a theological decision into an act of corporate damage control.
The Great Admission: We analyze the shocking confession in a Watchtower publication, admitting that Armageddon may not come in the lifetime of current members. Is this the end of a century-old prophecy?
The Visible Decline: We explore the signs that the organization is in crisis, from the drop in membership numbers to the sale of Kingdom Halls around the world.
The Jehovah's Witnesses crisis is more than a rule change; it's an identity crisis. What happens to a group that built everything on a promise of urgency when that urgency disappears?
This video was released 1 month ago by Kingdom Wisdom on YouTube.
Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CECZXDpRR0&t=6s
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Jeremiah 33:16 {NWT} ...And this is what she will be called, Jehovah Is Our Righteousness.
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LEAKED DOCUMENTS reveal how Jehovah’s Witnesses secretly created million-dollar companies in Ireland — and how those funds were quietly moved through corporate networks that few members even knew existed.
In this investigation, we uncover what these companies really do, who controls them, and why so much money is being hidden under religious structures.
Watch until the end to see the shocking connections between the Irish corporations and the Watchtower Organization.
This video was released 1 day ago by Kingdom Wisdom on YouTube.
Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2mHJAhzHuw
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LEAKED DOCUMENTS reveal how Jehovah’s Witnesses secretly created million-dollar companies in Ireland — and how those funds were quietly moved through corporate networks that few members even knew existed.
In this investigation, we uncover what these companies really do, who controls them, and why so much money is being hidden under religious structures.
This video was released 1 day ago by Kingdom Wisdom on YouTube.
Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2mHJAhzHuw
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Hi everyone,
I am Donald C. Burney Site Admin, "Abaddon (Rev. 9:11)" on Jehovah's Truth Discussion Board. I have had this particular discussion board since 2018.
I was baptized as one of Jehovah's Witnesses on Saturday, May 18th, 1968 at the age of 15 at the Circuit Assembly in Starke, Florida, while in the 9th grade in school at Amos P. Godby High School, in Tallahassee, Florida.
PLEASE NOTE: The following videos (as shown below) should prove to be quite helpful to any who want to know more about the "inside details" and massive coverup concerning the insidious, evil, false teaching & prediction of 1975 among Jehovah's Witnesses . . . as told by those who lived through those years as baptized, dedicated active adult members of the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization.
First Let's Consider One Gigantic, Cold Indisputable Fact About The False Prediction & Insidious Teaching Of 1975, As Taught By The Watchtower Society's Leadership In The Mid-1960s Thru 1975 Or So . . . They Did It!!!
This wicked teaching of 1975 did NOT start or begin with the JW brotherhood, as taught or promoted by the Watchtower Society!
No, it did not.
Let's take this obvious, clear-cut example of what Jehovah's Witnesses' Leadership said openly about the date & teaching of 1975,
Talk given by Jehovah's Witness then Watchtower Society V. P. Fred Franz, in the year of 1975.
Talk given by Jehovah's Witness Fred Franz, Watchtower Society, regarding the year 1975. False prophesies. Actual recording Discusses how Bible chronology points to the year 1975. Franz later served as President of the Watch Tower Society from 1977-1992.
This video was released September 12th, 2022 by Rockin' To A New Beat on YouTube.
Here is the actual [audio] talk, given in 1975 by then, V.P. Fred Franz preserved for us on YouTube video:
Also, the following video shown below was released back in July 2025 by Kingdom Wisdom on YouTube.
This video provides detail information about the devastating effects upon the JW Organization after the 1975 Fred Franz Prophecy failed all Jehovah's Witnesses World Wide!
Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jI1U_wdv9c&t=10s
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Hi everyone,
I am Donald C. Burney Site Admin, "Abaddon (Rev. 9:11)" on Jehovah's Truth Discussion Board. I have had this particular discussion board since 2018.
I was baptized as one of Jehovah's Witnesses on Saturday, May 18th, 1968 at the age of 15 at the Circuit Assembly in Starke, Florida, while in the 9th grade in school at Amos P. Godby High School, in Tallahassee, Florida.
PLEASE NOTE: The following videos (as shown below) should prove to be quite helpful to any who want to know more about the "inside details" and massive coverup concerning the insidious, evil, false teaching & prediction of 1975 among Jehovah's Witnesses . . . as told by those who lived through those years as baptized, dedicated active adult members of the Jehovah's Witnesses Organization.
First Let's Consider One Gigantic, Cold Indisputable Fact About The False Prediction & Insidious Teaching Of 1975, As Taught By The Watchtower Society's Leadership In The Mid-1960s Thru 1975 Or So . . . They Did It!!!
This wicked teaching of 1975 did NOT start or begin with the JW brotherhood, as taught or promoted by the Watchtower Society!
No, it did not.
Let's take this obvious, clear-cut example of what Jehovah's Witnesses' Leadership said openly about the date & teaching of 1975,
Talk given by Jehovah's Witness then Watchtower Society V. P. Fred Franz, in the year of 1975.
Talk given by Jehovah's Witness Fred Franz, Watchtower Society, regarding the year 1975. False prophesies. Actual recording Discusses how Bible chronology points to the year 1975. Franz later served as President of the Watch Tower Society from 1977-1992.
This video was released September 12th, 2022 by Rockin' To A New Beat on YouTube.
Here is the actual [audio] talk, given in 1975 by then, V.P. Fred Franz preserved for us on YouTube video:
Also, the following video shown below was released back in July 2025 by Kingdom Wisdom on YouTube.
This video provides detail information about the devastating effects upon the JW Organization after the 1975 Fred Franz Prophecy failed all Jehovah's Witnesses World Wide!
Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jI1U_wdv9c&t=10s
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Here is the Video & Commentary by Susan Gaskin on the 1975 False Teaching & Prediction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwvi2Jpd9KU
Also see this informative topic covered at Jehovah's Truth Discussion Board: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107
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Watchtower Society Video Explains Who Is
The Real Blame For The False Expectations Of 1975 Teaching!
The Real Blame For The False Expectations Of 1975 Teaching!
Here is the Video & Commentary by Susan Gaskin on the 1975 False Teaching & Prediction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xwvi2Jpd9KU
Also see this informative topic covered at Jehovah's Truth Discussion Board: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=107
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Here is the link to the (Short) Video Presentation: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nhJ753W0mck
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Here is the link to the (Short) Video Presentation: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nhJ753W0mck
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Speaker Mike Johnson announced that he would put a contentious bill compelling the release of all of the Justice Department’s Jeffrey Epstein case files to a vote on the House floor next week – earlier than expected.
This video was released 18 hours ago by CNN on YouTube.
Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsZYNzHcrhE
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Speaker Mike Johnson announced that he would put a contentious bill compelling the release of all of the Justice Department’s Jeffrey Epstein case files to a vote on the House floor next week – earlier than expected.
This video was released 18 hours ago by CNN on YouTube.
Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsZYNzHcrhE
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The time is coming, declares the LORD, when I will raise up a righteous descendant from David's line...And his name will be The LORD Is Our Righteousness. Jeremiah 23: 5,6 - CEB
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Here is the link to the article: https://yorww.com/stairway2.htm
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Where Was "The Woman" When She Gave "Birth" To
The "Male Child," Heaven Or Earth?
[See Revelation 12:5 & 6, 13 & 14]
The "Male Child," Heaven Or Earth?
[See Revelation 12:5 & 6, 13 & 14]
Here is the link to the article: https://yorww.com/stairway2.htm
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The Watchtower Society And Governing Body have lost, completely, their urgency in sounding the message with any purpose, as shown vividly in the almost unbelievable quote given below:
Source: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/ ... ou-help-me
Answer to question posed:
It’s in the Watchtower—Study Edition, November 2025 paragraph #7, in the study article “Maintain Your Joy in Old Age.”
The line reads: “Perhaps you are saddened by the possibility that the end of this system will not come in your lifetime.” (para. 7). (jw.org)
Link: https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines ... n-Old-Age/
7 Perhaps you are saddened by the possibility that the end of this system WILL NOT COME IN YOUR LIFETIME. If you feel that way, what can help? Try to remember that Jehovah is patiently waiting to bring an end to this wicked world. (Isa. 30:18) But his patience is not without purpose. His patience is allowing millions of people the time and the opportunity to come to know him and serve him. (2 Pet. 3:9) So when you feel discouraged, try to think about how many people will benefit from Jehovah’s patience before the end comes. Might some of them be members of your own family?
End of quote, paragraph 7.
Wow!!!
Don [In Shock]
A Watchtower Magazine Quote To Remember --
November 2025 Study Article!!!
[See April 12th, 1991 "Locust Letter" Written By Donald C. Burney]
November 2025 Study Article!!!
[See April 12th, 1991 "Locust Letter" Written By Donald C. Burney]
The Watchtower Society And Governing Body have lost, completely, their urgency in sounding the message with any purpose, as shown vividly in the almost unbelievable quote given below:
Source: https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/ ... ou-help-me
Answer to question posed:
It’s in the Watchtower—Study Edition, November 2025 paragraph #7, in the study article “Maintain Your Joy in Old Age.”
The line reads: “Perhaps you are saddened by the possibility that the end of this system will not come in your lifetime.” (para. 7). (jw.org)
Link: https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines ... n-Old-Age/
7 Perhaps you are saddened by the possibility that the end of this system WILL NOT COME IN YOUR LIFETIME. If you feel that way, what can help? Try to remember that Jehovah is patiently waiting to bring an end to this wicked world. (Isa. 30:18) But his patience is not without purpose. His patience is allowing millions of people the time and the opportunity to come to know him and serve him. (2 Pet. 3:9) So when you feel discouraged, try to think about how many people will benefit from Jehovah’s patience before the end comes. Might some of them be members of your own family?
End of quote, paragraph 7.
Wow!!!
Don [In Shock]
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[Article written by: Donald C. Burney on September 18th, 2024, and posted on Jehovahstruth.com Discussion Board.]
Perhaps, you may remember hearing some of the older Jehovah's Witnesses in your congregation say,
"If a brother or sister sins, he can REPROVE HIS/HERSELF, they do NOT . . . not need to talk to the elders about it ... it [the grievous sin] is between him/herself only . . . and Jehovah."
Have you ever heard older ones say this?
Actually, this viewpoint was held for a long time by many of Jehovah's Witnesses around the world.
In fact, this viewpoint became popular back in the mid-1970s among Jehovah's Witnesses world wide. This is because the Watchtower Society actually taught this in their literature for a period of time. Of course as of recent, they have gotten away from this viewpoint. They now want to monitor a person's any and every movement, censoring any error, mistake or mishap a person may make within the Christian Congregation. They teach the elders to hover over the flock like a hawk, ready to pounce upon them at any given moment, even if they give a hint at sinning. They even tell the elders to "police" the private bedroom of married couples! Isn't that true?
This is appalling!
However, when we take a close look at Jeremiah 2:19, Jehovah does agree with their original viewpoint of things. Yes, a sinner should be able to reprove himself, using God's Word as a form of "Godly Discipline" toward him or herself. (2 Timothy 3:16, 17) He does not need any outside help from other individuals to do this. -- See 2 Chronicles 16:9; Jeremiah 17:9, 10; 1 Corinthians 9:27; James 4:17.
Take for example this verse, 2 Samuel 24:10 New Living Translation, which tells us:
Clearly, King David did not need any help from outsiders to help him appreciate the fact, that he had sinned . . . gravely.
Therefore, he (David) immediately, after sinning, took the appropriate steps to repair his relationship with Jehovah after sinning and promptly rectified the situation, as we see above, to regain his good status with "his God and Father," Jehovah God. (John 20:17) A fine example for all of us today!
To be sure, this simple example shown above, also shows us that it is entirely UNNECESSARY, for a "Judicial Committee" among Jehovah's Witnesses to be convened to verbally chastise, degrade or publicly humiliate congregation members because of sins committed by themselves, known only to themselves. No "Judicial Committee" is needed for this. Yes, this erring one, can reprove himself, based upon what God's Word plainly says. No problem.
However, there may be instances where a Christian follower of Christ may err, and perhaps through stubbornness or arbitrary attitudes displayed at times, he may need additional help, yes, outside help,to get himself back on the right track with Jehovah. This is something that Jesus taught us. In this case, the elders and yes, even the entire congregation can assist a person to regain his senses, if he/she persists in sinning, especially, if this has become known to others. Jesus highlights the fact, that the "lost sheep" of the "100 sheep" in his care, may need to be "brought to repentance," in this particular instance. (See Matthew 18:10-18; Luke 15:1-7; 1 Timothy 5:20.) Remember this also happened to King David, Jehovah sent the prophet Nathan to straighten him out over his sin with Uriah and Bathsheba. David needed additional help, in this particular instance. And, Jehovah obliged him. Jehovah sent the prophet Nathan. -- See 2 Samuel 11:1-12:22.
Modern-Day "Israel" In Apostasy Today!
Likewise, the same could be said to be true of God's Name People today. We could say, this same situation is also true today of:
However it seems, 8.7 million Jehovah's Witnesses are not willing to "repent," over their public apostasy, in connection with the United Nations. Yes, it has been over 20 years since this Great National "Sin" has been publicly known about, through the Guardian Newspaper ever since October 2001, and still Jehovah's Witnesses have not . . . have NOT repented before God Almighty, like stubborn King David did. -- Isaiah 65:2; Hosea 4:16
So, what is Jehovah & Jesus Christ, the Head of the Christian Congregation, to do, I ask?
What will Jehovah God and Jesus, the Head of the Christian Congregation, do about this horrendous, horrific, public sin? Yes, even though this particular sin . . . has "escaped the notice" of the vast majority of Jehovah's Witnesses, globally-speaking? The Law of Moses points out, that even in cases where the "sin is hidden from the congregation," ATONEMENT is still needed on the part of the nation, in God's eyes. (See Lev. 4:13-21 NRSV)
So again I ask, what is Jehovah & Jesus Christ, the Head of the Christian Congregation, to do about such a situation?
Again, Jehovah and Jesus Christ, will oblige them (Jehovah's Witnesses). Just like king David.
Simple.
Jehovah and Jesus will send the apostate, wayward nation of "Israel" of today, a "Helper" [Greek: paraclete] . . . yes, a Special "Helper" to help them out, who will "convict" them of Sin, just like Nathan did David. (Some translations render this expression "Advocate," "Comforter," "Counselor.") Yes, they need additional help, in this instance. They need, a prophet, to help them out, because of great transgression committed against God Almighty! They need . . . the "Spirit of Truth," a human, a man, an appointed special person and "representative of God," (John 1:6), who is both from, Jehovah God and Jesus Christ, sent to "save" the nation of "Israel" from complete destruction. -- See Isaiah 49:5-6; Malachi 4:5-6; John 14:26; John 15:26; John 16:7-12;
Think about it.
To prove the point that "Sin" [UN-NGO situation] itself, needs to "correct" and "discipline" all Jehovah's Witnesses world wide, let's take a look at various renderings of the bible text of Jeremiah 2:19 shown below.
New International Version
Your wickedness will punish you; your backsliding will rebuke you. Consider then and realize how evil and bitter it is for you when you forsake the LORD your God and have no awe of me,” declares the Lord, the LORD Almighty.
New Living Translation
Your wickedness will bring its own punishment. Your turning from me will shame you. You will see what an evil, bitter thing it is to abandon the LORD your God and not to fear him. I, the Lord, the LORD of Heaven’s Armies, have spoken!
English Standard Version
Your evil will chastise you, and your apostasy will reprove you. Know and see that it is evil and bitter for you to forsake the LORD your God; the fear of me is not in you, declares the Lord GOD of hosts.
Berean Standard Bible
Your own evil will discipline you; your own apostasies will reprimand you. Consider and realize how evil and bitter it is for you to forsake the LORD your God and to have no fear of Me,” declares the Lord GOD of Hosts.
King James Bible
Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord GOD of hosts.
New King James Version
Your own wickedness will correct you, And your backslidings will rebuke you. Know therefore and see that it is an evil and bitter thing That you have forsaken the LORD your God, And the fear of Me is not in you,” Says the Lord GOD of hosts.
New American Standard Bible
“Your own wickedness will correct you, And your apostasies will punish you; Know therefore and see that it is evil and bitter For you to abandon the LORD your God, And the fear of Me is not in you,” declares the Lord GOD of armies.
NASB 1995
“Your own wickedness will correct you, And your apostasies will reprove you; Know therefore and see that it is evil and bitter For you to forsake the LORD your God, And the dread of Me is not in you,” declares the Lord GOD of hosts.
NASB 1977
“Your own wickedness will correct you, And your apostasies will reprove you; Know therefore and see that it is evil and bitter For you to forsake the LORD your God, And the dread of Me is not in you,” declares the Lord GOD of hosts.
Legacy Standard Bible
Your own evil will chastise you, And your acts of faithlessness will reprove you; Know therefore and see that it is evil and bitter For you to forsake Yahweh your God, And the dread of Me is not in you,” declares Lord Yahweh of hosts.
Amplified Bible
“Your own wickedness will discipline you, And your desertion of the faith will punish you. Know therefore that it is an evil and bitter thing For you to abandon (reject) the LORD your God, And for you to be indifferent to Me and dismiss the [reverent] fear of Me,” says the Lord GOD of hosts.
Christian Standard Bible
Your own evil will discipline you; your own apostasies will reprimand you. Recognize how evil and bitter it is for you to abandon the LORD your God and to have no fear of me. This is the declaration of the Lord GOD of Armies.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Your own evil will discipline you; your own apostasies will reprimand you. Think it over and see how evil and bitter it is for you to abandon the LORD your God and to have no fear of Me. This is the declaration of the Lord GOD of Hosts.
American Standard Version
Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and a bitter, that thou hast forsaken Jehovah thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord, Jehovah of hosts.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Your evil shall chastise you and your turning away shall reprove you, and know and see what is evil and bitter because you have forsaken LORD JEHOVAH your God, and you were not in awe of me, says LORD JEHOVAH God of Hosts
Brenton Septuagint Translation
Thine apostasy shall correct thee, and thy wickedness shall reprove thee: know then, and see, that thy forsaking me has been bitter to thee, saith the Lord thy God; and I have taken no pleasure in thee, saith the Lord thy God.
Contemporary English Version
Your own sins will punish you, because it was a bitter mistake for you to reject me without fear of punishment. I, the LORD All-Powerful, have spoken.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Thy own wickedness shall reprove thee, and thy apostasy shall rebuke thee. Know thou, and see that it is an evil and a bitter thing for thee, to have left the Lord thy God, and that my fear is not with thee, saith the Lord the God of hosts.
English Revised Version
Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and a bitter, that thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
Your own wickedness will correct you, and your unfaithful ways will punish you. You should know and see how evil and bitter it is for you if you abandon the LORD your God and do not fear me," declares the Almighty LORD of Armies.
Good News Translation
Your own evil will punish you, and your turning from me will condemn you. You will learn how bitter and wrong it is to abandon me, the LORD your God, and no longer to remain faithful to me. I, the Sovereign LORD Almighty, have spoken."
International Standard Version
Your wickedness will be punished, and you will be corrected due to your acts of apostasy. Know and see that it's evil and bitter for you to forsake the LORD your God, but the fear of me is not in you," declares the Lord GOD of the Heavenly Armies.
JPS Tanakh 1917
Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, And thy backslidings shall reprove thee: Know therefore and see that it is an evil and a bitter thing, That thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, Neither is My fear in thee, Saith the Lord GOD of hosts.
Literal Standard Version
Your wickedness instructs you, | And your backslidings reprove you, | Know and see that an evil and a bitter thing [is] your forsaking your God YHWH, | And My fear not being on you,” | A declaration of Lord YHWH of Hosts.
Majority Standard Bible
Your own evil will discipline you; your own apostasies will reprimand you. Consider and realize how evil and bitter it is for you to forsake the LORD your God and to have no fear of Me,” declares the Lord GOD of Hosts.
New American Bible
Your own wickedness chastises you, your own infidelities punish you. Know then, and see, how evil and bitter is your forsaking the LORD, your God, And your showing no fear of me, oracle of the Lord, the GOD of hosts.
NET Bible
Your own wickedness will bring about your punishment. Your unfaithful acts will bring down discipline on you. Know, then, and realize how utterly harmful it was for you to reject me, the LORD your God, to show no respect for me," says the Lord GOD who rules over all.
New Revised Standard Version
Your wickedness will punish you, and your apostasies will convict you. Know and see that it is evil and bitter for you to forsake the LORD your God; the fear of me is not in you, says the Lord GOD of hosts.
New Heart English Bible
"Your own wickedness shall correct you, and your backsliding shall reprove you. Know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter that you have forsaken the LORD your God, and that my fear is not in you," says the Lord, GOD of hosts.
Webster's Bible Translation
Thy own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord GOD of hosts.
World English Bible
“Your own wickedness will correct you, and your backsliding will rebuke you. Know therefore and see that it is an evil and bitter thing, that you have forsaken Yahweh your God, and that my fear is not in you,” says the Lord, Yahweh of Armies.
Young's Literal Translation
Instruct thee doth thy wickedness, And thy backslidings reprove thee, Know and see that an evil and a bitter thing Is thy forsaking Jehovah thy God, And My fear not being on thee, An affirmation of the Lord Jehovah of Hosts.
Article written by: Donald C. Burney on September 18th, 2024, and posted on Jehovahstruth.com Discussion Board.
See Watchtower Articles On "Self -Reproof" in various Watchtower Magazine Issues below:
The phrase "reprove yourself" is not a title of a specific Watchtower issue, but rather a concept discussed within various Watchtower publications, particularly in articles from the 1970s and early 2010s. The idea is that an individual's own conscience, guided by God's Word, can lead to self-correction and repentance without formal action by congregation elders.
Key Articles Discussing "Self-Reproof":
The main discussions of this concept can be found in a two-part series from The Watchtower in 1976 and related articles:
"How Wise Reprovers Aid Erring Ones" (The Watchtower, December 1, 1976)
"Reproving Persons Who Practice Sin" (The Watchtower, December 1, 1976)
"'Reproofs Are the Way of Life'" (The Watchtower, November 15, 1977)
"Help Yourself and Others by Using God’s Word" (The Watchtower, April 15, 2013)
The Concept of "Self-Reproof"
According to these publications, "reproof" involves using evidence or argument from the Bible to convince someone they have strayed from godly principles and to "point away from sin to repentance".
The articles explain that a person can "reprove" themselves:
Through Conscience: When reading the Bible or Bible-based counsel, an individual may realize their failing, regret it, and pray for forgiveness. Their own heart and conscience, along with God's Word and spirit, do the convincing and move them to repent and turn away from the wrongdoing.
Avoiding Public Reproof: If a person genuinely repents of a serious sin on their own initiative (meaning the sin is known only to themselves and God), and seeks help from the elders, the elders, if satisfied with the genuine repentance, might handle the situation without making a public announcement or giving formal reproof before the congregation.
Seeking Help: A repentant person is encouraged to seek the help of congregation elders to strengthen their resolve not to repeat the wrong. The elders' goal is primarily to help the individual "get healed" spiritually, not automatically to publicize their wrongdoing if they have truly abandoned the sin.
In essence, the Watchtower Publications in the past, have taught that using God's Word for self-correction is an important part of a Christian's life and a sign of spiritual health.
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"Your Own Wickedness Will Correct You . . ." Says Jehovah!
(See Jeremiah 2:19 New King James Version)
[Personal Character Development Key In Making Any Adjustment Needed:
See Genesis 1:26-27; Galatians 5:22-23; Ephesians 4:22-24; Colossians 3:9-10; Wickedness = Isaiah 26:10.]
(See Jeremiah 2:19 New King James Version)
[Personal Character Development Key In Making Any Adjustment Needed:
See Genesis 1:26-27; Galatians 5:22-23; Ephesians 4:22-24; Colossians 3:9-10; Wickedness = Isaiah 26:10.]
[Article written by: Donald C. Burney on September 18th, 2024, and posted on Jehovahstruth.com Discussion Board.]
Perhaps, you may remember hearing some of the older Jehovah's Witnesses in your congregation say,
"If a brother or sister sins, he can REPROVE HIS/HERSELF, they do NOT . . . not need to talk to the elders about it ... it [the grievous sin] is between him/herself only . . . and Jehovah."
Have you ever heard older ones say this?
Actually, this viewpoint was held for a long time by many of Jehovah's Witnesses around the world.
In fact, this viewpoint became popular back in the mid-1970s among Jehovah's Witnesses world wide. This is because the Watchtower Society actually taught this in their literature for a period of time. Of course as of recent, they have gotten away from this viewpoint. They now want to monitor a person's any and every movement, censoring any error, mistake or mishap a person may make within the Christian Congregation. They teach the elders to hover over the flock like a hawk, ready to pounce upon them at any given moment, even if they give a hint at sinning. They even tell the elders to "police" the private bedroom of married couples! Isn't that true?
This is appalling!
However, when we take a close look at Jeremiah 2:19, Jehovah does agree with their original viewpoint of things. Yes, a sinner should be able to reprove himself, using God's Word as a form of "Godly Discipline" toward him or herself. (2 Timothy 3:16, 17) He does not need any outside help from other individuals to do this. -- See 2 Chronicles 16:9; Jeremiah 17:9, 10; 1 Corinthians 9:27; James 4:17.
Take for example this verse, 2 Samuel 24:10 New Living Translation, which tells us:
- "But after he had taken the census, David’s conscience began to bother him. And he said to the LORD, “I have sinned greatly by taking this census. Please forgive my guilt, LORD, for doing this foolish thing.”"
Clearly, King David did not need any help from outsiders to help him appreciate the fact, that he had sinned . . . gravely.
Therefore, he (David) immediately, after sinning, took the appropriate steps to repair his relationship with Jehovah after sinning and promptly rectified the situation, as we see above, to regain his good status with "his God and Father," Jehovah God. (John 20:17) A fine example for all of us today!
To be sure, this simple example shown above, also shows us that it is entirely UNNECESSARY, for a "Judicial Committee" among Jehovah's Witnesses to be convened to verbally chastise, degrade or publicly humiliate congregation members because of sins committed by themselves, known only to themselves. No "Judicial Committee" is needed for this. Yes, this erring one, can reprove himself, based upon what God's Word plainly says. No problem.
However, there may be instances where a Christian follower of Christ may err, and perhaps through stubbornness or arbitrary attitudes displayed at times, he may need additional help, yes, outside help,to get himself back on the right track with Jehovah. This is something that Jesus taught us. In this case, the elders and yes, even the entire congregation can assist a person to regain his senses, if he/she persists in sinning, especially, if this has become known to others. Jesus highlights the fact, that the "lost sheep" of the "100 sheep" in his care, may need to be "brought to repentance," in this particular instance. (See Matthew 18:10-18; Luke 15:1-7; 1 Timothy 5:20.) Remember this also happened to King David, Jehovah sent the prophet Nathan to straighten him out over his sin with Uriah and Bathsheba. David needed additional help, in this particular instance. And, Jehovah obliged him. Jehovah sent the prophet Nathan. -- See 2 Samuel 11:1-12:22.
Modern-Day "Israel" In Apostasy Today!
Likewise, the same could be said to be true of God's Name People today. We could say, this same situation is also true today of:
- Modern-day "Israel" of Bible prophecy, Jehovah's Witnesses, globally 8.7 million strong . . . who are presently in Grand, Nation-Wide "Apostasy" against God Almighty! Jehovah's Witnesses are now to be viewed officially, as an "Apostate Nation," "a Godless Nation" before God, because of the hidden, clandestine debacle of 1991-2001 United Nations NGO DPI Status. Think about it. -- See Isaiah 10:6 New World Translation [See link on "Jehovah's Witnesses In Apostasy" here: https://www.yorww.com/disgustingthing.htm ]
However it seems, 8.7 million Jehovah's Witnesses are not willing to "repent," over their public apostasy, in connection with the United Nations. Yes, it has been over 20 years since this Great National "Sin" has been publicly known about, through the Guardian Newspaper ever since October 2001, and still Jehovah's Witnesses have not . . . have NOT repented before God Almighty, like stubborn King David did. -- Isaiah 65:2; Hosea 4:16
So, what is Jehovah & Jesus Christ, the Head of the Christian Congregation, to do, I ask?
What will Jehovah God and Jesus, the Head of the Christian Congregation, do about this horrendous, horrific, public sin? Yes, even though this particular sin . . . has "escaped the notice" of the vast majority of Jehovah's Witnesses, globally-speaking? The Law of Moses points out, that even in cases where the "sin is hidden from the congregation," ATONEMENT is still needed on the part of the nation, in God's eyes. (See Lev. 4:13-21 NRSV)
So again I ask, what is Jehovah & Jesus Christ, the Head of the Christian Congregation, to do about such a situation?
Again, Jehovah and Jesus Christ, will oblige them (Jehovah's Witnesses). Just like king David.
Simple.
Jehovah and Jesus will send the apostate, wayward nation of "Israel" of today, a "Helper" [Greek: paraclete] . . . yes, a Special "Helper" to help them out, who will "convict" them of Sin, just like Nathan did David. (Some translations render this expression "Advocate," "Comforter," "Counselor.") Yes, they need additional help, in this instance. They need, a prophet, to help them out, because of great transgression committed against God Almighty! They need . . . the "Spirit of Truth," a human, a man, an appointed special person and "representative of God," (John 1:6), who is both from, Jehovah God and Jesus Christ, sent to "save" the nation of "Israel" from complete destruction. -- See Isaiah 49:5-6; Malachi 4:5-6; John 14:26; John 15:26; John 16:7-12;
Think about it.
To prove the point that "Sin" [UN-NGO situation] itself, needs to "correct" and "discipline" all Jehovah's Witnesses world wide, let's take a look at various renderings of the bible text of Jeremiah 2:19 shown below.
New International Version
Your wickedness will punish you; your backsliding will rebuke you. Consider then and realize how evil and bitter it is for you when you forsake the LORD your God and have no awe of me,” declares the Lord, the LORD Almighty.
New Living Translation
Your wickedness will bring its own punishment. Your turning from me will shame you. You will see what an evil, bitter thing it is to abandon the LORD your God and not to fear him. I, the Lord, the LORD of Heaven’s Armies, have spoken!
English Standard Version
Your evil will chastise you, and your apostasy will reprove you. Know and see that it is evil and bitter for you to forsake the LORD your God; the fear of me is not in you, declares the Lord GOD of hosts.
Berean Standard Bible
Your own evil will discipline you; your own apostasies will reprimand you. Consider and realize how evil and bitter it is for you to forsake the LORD your God and to have no fear of Me,” declares the Lord GOD of Hosts.
King James Bible
Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord GOD of hosts.
New King James Version
Your own wickedness will correct you, And your backslidings will rebuke you. Know therefore and see that it is an evil and bitter thing That you have forsaken the LORD your God, And the fear of Me is not in you,” Says the Lord GOD of hosts.
New American Standard Bible
“Your own wickedness will correct you, And your apostasies will punish you; Know therefore and see that it is evil and bitter For you to abandon the LORD your God, And the fear of Me is not in you,” declares the Lord GOD of armies.
NASB 1995
“Your own wickedness will correct you, And your apostasies will reprove you; Know therefore and see that it is evil and bitter For you to forsake the LORD your God, And the dread of Me is not in you,” declares the Lord GOD of hosts.
NASB 1977
“Your own wickedness will correct you, And your apostasies will reprove you; Know therefore and see that it is evil and bitter For you to forsake the LORD your God, And the dread of Me is not in you,” declares the Lord GOD of hosts.
Legacy Standard Bible
Your own evil will chastise you, And your acts of faithlessness will reprove you; Know therefore and see that it is evil and bitter For you to forsake Yahweh your God, And the dread of Me is not in you,” declares Lord Yahweh of hosts.
Amplified Bible
“Your own wickedness will discipline you, And your desertion of the faith will punish you. Know therefore that it is an evil and bitter thing For you to abandon (reject) the LORD your God, And for you to be indifferent to Me and dismiss the [reverent] fear of Me,” says the Lord GOD of hosts.
Christian Standard Bible
Your own evil will discipline you; your own apostasies will reprimand you. Recognize how evil and bitter it is for you to abandon the LORD your God and to have no fear of me. This is the declaration of the Lord GOD of Armies.
Holman Christian Standard Bible
Your own evil will discipline you; your own apostasies will reprimand you. Think it over and see how evil and bitter it is for you to abandon the LORD your God and to have no fear of Me. This is the declaration of the Lord GOD of Hosts.
American Standard Version
Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and a bitter, that thou hast forsaken Jehovah thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord, Jehovah of hosts.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English
Your evil shall chastise you and your turning away shall reprove you, and know and see what is evil and bitter because you have forsaken LORD JEHOVAH your God, and you were not in awe of me, says LORD JEHOVAH God of Hosts
Brenton Septuagint Translation
Thine apostasy shall correct thee, and thy wickedness shall reprove thee: know then, and see, that thy forsaking me has been bitter to thee, saith the Lord thy God; and I have taken no pleasure in thee, saith the Lord thy God.
Contemporary English Version
Your own sins will punish you, because it was a bitter mistake for you to reject me without fear of punishment. I, the LORD All-Powerful, have spoken.
Douay-Rheims Bible
Thy own wickedness shall reprove thee, and thy apostasy shall rebuke thee. Know thou, and see that it is an evil and a bitter thing for thee, to have left the Lord thy God, and that my fear is not with thee, saith the Lord the God of hosts.
English Revised Version
Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and a bitter, that thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts.
GOD'S WORD® Translation
Your own wickedness will correct you, and your unfaithful ways will punish you. You should know and see how evil and bitter it is for you if you abandon the LORD your God and do not fear me," declares the Almighty LORD of Armies.
Good News Translation
Your own evil will punish you, and your turning from me will condemn you. You will learn how bitter and wrong it is to abandon me, the LORD your God, and no longer to remain faithful to me. I, the Sovereign LORD Almighty, have spoken."
International Standard Version
Your wickedness will be punished, and you will be corrected due to your acts of apostasy. Know and see that it's evil and bitter for you to forsake the LORD your God, but the fear of me is not in you," declares the Lord GOD of the Heavenly Armies.
JPS Tanakh 1917
Thine own wickedness shall correct thee, And thy backslidings shall reprove thee: Know therefore and see that it is an evil and a bitter thing, That thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, Neither is My fear in thee, Saith the Lord GOD of hosts.
Literal Standard Version
Your wickedness instructs you, | And your backslidings reprove you, | Know and see that an evil and a bitter thing [is] your forsaking your God YHWH, | And My fear not being on you,” | A declaration of Lord YHWH of Hosts.
Majority Standard Bible
Your own evil will discipline you; your own apostasies will reprimand you. Consider and realize how evil and bitter it is for you to forsake the LORD your God and to have no fear of Me,” declares the Lord GOD of Hosts.
New American Bible
Your own wickedness chastises you, your own infidelities punish you. Know then, and see, how evil and bitter is your forsaking the LORD, your God, And your showing no fear of me, oracle of the Lord, the GOD of hosts.
NET Bible
Your own wickedness will bring about your punishment. Your unfaithful acts will bring down discipline on you. Know, then, and realize how utterly harmful it was for you to reject me, the LORD your God, to show no respect for me," says the Lord GOD who rules over all.
New Revised Standard Version
Your wickedness will punish you, and your apostasies will convict you. Know and see that it is evil and bitter for you to forsake the LORD your God; the fear of me is not in you, says the Lord GOD of hosts.
New Heart English Bible
"Your own wickedness shall correct you, and your backsliding shall reprove you. Know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter that you have forsaken the LORD your God, and that my fear is not in you," says the Lord, GOD of hosts.
Webster's Bible Translation
Thy own wickedness shall correct thee, and thy backslidings shall reprove thee: know therefore and see that it is an evil thing and bitter, that thou hast forsaken the LORD thy God, and that my fear is not in thee, saith the Lord GOD of hosts.
World English Bible
“Your own wickedness will correct you, and your backsliding will rebuke you. Know therefore and see that it is an evil and bitter thing, that you have forsaken Yahweh your God, and that my fear is not in you,” says the Lord, Yahweh of Armies.
Young's Literal Translation
Instruct thee doth thy wickedness, And thy backslidings reprove thee, Know and see that an evil and a bitter thing Is thy forsaking Jehovah thy God, And My fear not being on thee, An affirmation of the Lord Jehovah of Hosts.
Article written by: Donald C. Burney on September 18th, 2024, and posted on Jehovahstruth.com Discussion Board.
***End of Article***
See Watchtower Articles On "Self -Reproof" in various Watchtower Magazine Issues below:
The phrase "reprove yourself" is not a title of a specific Watchtower issue, but rather a concept discussed within various Watchtower publications, particularly in articles from the 1970s and early 2010s. The idea is that an individual's own conscience, guided by God's Word, can lead to self-correction and repentance without formal action by congregation elders.
Key Articles Discussing "Self-Reproof":
The main discussions of this concept can be found in a two-part series from The Watchtower in 1976 and related articles:
"How Wise Reprovers Aid Erring Ones" (The Watchtower, December 1, 1976)
"Reproving Persons Who Practice Sin" (The Watchtower, December 1, 1976)
"'Reproofs Are the Way of Life'" (The Watchtower, November 15, 1977)
"Help Yourself and Others by Using God’s Word" (The Watchtower, April 15, 2013)
The Concept of "Self-Reproof"
According to these publications, "reproof" involves using evidence or argument from the Bible to convince someone they have strayed from godly principles and to "point away from sin to repentance".
The articles explain that a person can "reprove" themselves:
Through Conscience: When reading the Bible or Bible-based counsel, an individual may realize their failing, regret it, and pray for forgiveness. Their own heart and conscience, along with God's Word and spirit, do the convincing and move them to repent and turn away from the wrongdoing.
Avoiding Public Reproof: If a person genuinely repents of a serious sin on their own initiative (meaning the sin is known only to themselves and God), and seeks help from the elders, the elders, if satisfied with the genuine repentance, might handle the situation without making a public announcement or giving formal reproof before the congregation.
Seeking Help: A repentant person is encouraged to seek the help of congregation elders to strengthen their resolve not to repeat the wrong. The elders' goal is primarily to help the individual "get healed" spiritually, not automatically to publicize their wrongdoing if they have truly abandoned the sin.
In essence, the Watchtower Publications in the past, have taught that using God's Word for self-correction is an important part of a Christian's life and a sign of spiritual health.
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Jeremiah 33:16 {NWT} ...And this is what she will be called, Jehovah Is Our Righteousness.
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Re: The "Chieftain" & Modern Day "Servant" Speaks To The 144,000
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[Microsoft's "Co-Pilot" AI's Perspective Of: https://www.yorww.com/lowdrytree.html]
Quick Review:
The “Low, Dry Tree” page on the YORWW.com site uses biblical imagery to argue that God deliberately chooses humble, despised, and seemingly powerless instruments—symbolized as a “low, dry tree”—to reveal divine truth and pronounce judgment. It contrasts this with Jehovah’s Witnesses, whom YORWW portrays as a “moist tree” [or "green tree"] that has become arrogant, unresponsive, and corrupt.
See article "Low, Dry Tree" here: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtop ... 6058#p6058
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The "Low, Dry Tree" ... God's Chosen Vessel To Represent Him!
(See Ezekiel 17:22-24)
(See Ezekiel 17:22-24)
[Microsoft's "Co-Pilot" AI's Perspective Of: https://www.yorww.com/lowdrytree.html]
Quick Review:
The “Low, Dry Tree” page on the YORWW.com site uses biblical imagery to argue that God deliberately chooses humble, despised, and seemingly powerless instruments—symbolized as a “low, dry tree”—to reveal divine truth and pronounce judgment. It contrasts this with Jehovah’s Witnesses, whom YORWW portrays as a “moist tree” [or "green tree"] that has become arrogant, unresponsive, and corrupt.
See article "Low, Dry Tree" here: https://jehovahstruth.com/forum/viewtop ... 6058#p6058
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Re: The "Chieftain" & Modern Day "Servant" Speaks To The 144,000
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This video discusses allegations from a public federal lawsuit involving child abuse. No graphic details are described.
All information is sourced directly from the official court document filed in the Southern District of New York.
Source:
gov.uscourts.nysd.652986.1.0
https://storage.courtlistener.com/rec...
A $100,000,000 lawsuit has been filed against Watchtower — the controlling corporation behind Jehovah’s Witnesses — after a Circuit Overseer in Brazil was convicted of repeatedly abusing a child inside Kingdom Halls and even an Assembly Hall while thousands of Witnesses attended meetings nearby.
The lawsuit alleges:
• Repeated abuse of a 12-year-old girl by Circuit Overseer Angelo Roviezzo
• Abuse occurring inside JW properties, including the Assembly Hall
• Elders silencing her instead of protecting her
• A full-scale cover-up directed by Watchtower headquarters in New York
• The Circuit Overseer being transferred — a decision that requires New York approval
• Watchtower representatives allegedly offering money for her silence
• Roviezzo being reinstated as a Jehovah’s Witness while serving a prison sentence
• Lifelong trauma, infertility, PTSD, and multiple suicide attempts
• A jury demand for not less than $100,000,000 in damages
This case exposes the dangerous cult structure inside Jehovah’s Witnesses — a system that protects predators, silences victims, and shields leadership from accountability.
This video was released 6 hours ago by Fixing My Faith on YouTube.
Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8MNjzjEoGw
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This video discusses allegations from a public federal lawsuit involving child abuse. No graphic details are described.
All information is sourced directly from the official court document filed in the Southern District of New York.
Source:
gov.uscourts.nysd.652986.1.0
https://storage.courtlistener.com/rec...
A $100,000,000 lawsuit has been filed against Watchtower — the controlling corporation behind Jehovah’s Witnesses — after a Circuit Overseer in Brazil was convicted of repeatedly abusing a child inside Kingdom Halls and even an Assembly Hall while thousands of Witnesses attended meetings nearby.
The lawsuit alleges:
• Repeated abuse of a 12-year-old girl by Circuit Overseer Angelo Roviezzo
• Abuse occurring inside JW properties, including the Assembly Hall
• Elders silencing her instead of protecting her
• A full-scale cover-up directed by Watchtower headquarters in New York
• The Circuit Overseer being transferred — a decision that requires New York approval
• Watchtower representatives allegedly offering money for her silence
• Roviezzo being reinstated as a Jehovah’s Witness while serving a prison sentence
• Lifelong trauma, infertility, PTSD, and multiple suicide attempts
• A jury demand for not less than $100,000,000 in damages
This case exposes the dangerous cult structure inside Jehovah’s Witnesses — a system that protects predators, silences victims, and shields leadership from accountability.
This video was released 6 hours ago by Fixing My Faith on YouTube.
Here is the link to the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8MNjzjEoGw
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