The "Chieftain" & Modern Day "Servant" Speaks To The 144,000

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Re: The "Chieftain" & Modern Day "Servant" Speaks To The 144

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Hi battleaxe: :)
battleaxe wrote:Greetings Rabboni,

Thank you again for another wonderful topic.

Re, the phone call, I tried thrice today, but got no response, never the less my number is recorded on their number, so I wait amen.
Thanks, for making the phone call for us. :)
Brother Don, I am very very happy that I was never ever given into the confounded teachings of JWS, if I had, there would be no hope for me today, as it is so difficult to undo the damage that has been done, Praise Jah amen.

Rabboni, Arise, shine for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee. For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the
people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and His Glory shall be seen upon thee. (2) And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising. Isaiah 60: 1-2.

Romans 3: 1-4 says, What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision? Much every way, chiefly because that unto them were committed the Oracles of GOD. For what if some did not believe? shall their unbelief make the faith of GOD without effect? GOD forbid: yea, let GOD be true
but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

Isaiah 55:11 says, So shall my word be that goeth forth out of my mouth, it shall not return unto me void, but it shall accomplish that which I please, and it shall prosper in the thing whereto I sent it. amen and amen.
Peace and Love
Eeden.
Agreed, most heartily. :D

There can be no question, "Oholah" [Churches of Christendom] and "Oholibah" [Jehovah's Witnesses as a religion] ... [Ezekiel 23] are all spiritual "prostitutes" in God's eyes...and have failed Jehovah & Jesus miserably. No doubt. :x

Still we must note, among other verses, you mentioned Romans 3:4 above.

That verse makes a striking point too.

It states in part:
  • "...yea, let GOD be true but every man a liar ...
When we think of the 144,000 and all of the requirements outlined in verses 1-5 of the 14th chapter of Revelation, particularly verse 5, we can see Jehovah does not tolerate deliberate "falsehood" or lying teachings or erroneous, "commandments of men" like doctrine or tradition, in their worship of Him, Isn't that right? These false "teachings," can always be traced in its origin, to the presence of Satan and his wicked "demons." -- See 1 Timothy 4:1; Revelation 18:2.

So then, again ... we can easily see just how the 144,000 will be used by God Almighty, to restore pure worship on earth...no "falsehood" is to be found in their mouth. (vs. 5)

With this thought in mind, we can see a unique purpose, as learned about on this discussion board so far, to show us Jehovah's Overall Purposes for the earth, and the restoration of pure worship on earth, at the direction of "Elijah." -- See Malachi 4:5; Matthew 17:11

For example, please see link for additional information on the restoration of pure worship on earth, and compare with Revelation 14:1 & The Requirement of The Acceptance of The Divine Name: http://www.yorww.com/trueworship.html

I will list a number of bible translations below, so that we can get the feel for verse 5, and this unique requirement for one to be numbered among the special, elect 144,000. All of the 144,000 must teach "truth," ... Divine Truth, which does not allow for any "commandments of men" type of "falsehood," or tradition, or false doctrine, in their midst. -- See Matthew 15:9; Mark 7:7, 8.

Revelation 14:5 says of the 144,000:
  • New International Version
    No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.

    New Living Translation
    They have told no lies; they are without blame.

    English Standard Version
    and in their mouth no lie was found, for they are blameless.

    New American Standard Bible
    And no lie was found in their mouth; they are blameless.

    King James Bible
    And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

    Holman Christian Standard Bible
    No lie was found in their mouths; they are blameless.

    International Standard Version
    In their mouth no lie was found. They are blameless.

    NET Bible
    and no lie was found on their lips; they are blameless.

    Aramaic Bible in Plain English
    And there is no falsehood found in their mouths as they are without fault.

    GOD'S WORD® Translation
    They've never told a lie. They are blameless.

    Jubilee Bible 2000
    And in their mouth was found no guile, for they are without blemish before the throne of God.

    King James 2000 Bible
    And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

    American King James Version
    And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

    American Standard Version
    And in their mouth was found no lie: they are without blemish.

    Douay-Rheims Bible
    And in their mouth there was found no lie; for they are without spot before the throne of God.

    Darby Bible Translation
    and in their mouths was no lie found; [for] they are blameless.

    English Revised Version
    And in their mouth was found no lie: they are without blemish.

    Webster's Bible Translation
    And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

    Weymouth New Testament
    And no lie has ever been found upon their lips: they are faultless.

    World English Bible
    In their mouth was found no lie, for they are blameless.

    Young's Literal Translation
    and in their mouth there was not found guile, for unblemished are they before the throne of God.
The spiritual state of all religions of our time today, both "Oholah" & "Oholibah" have failed God miserably. -- See Ezekiel 23rd Chapter.

Because, we all know how Jehovah & Jesus Christ feel about deliberate lying, and all practicing liars, and all religions, that are "liking and carrying on a lie." We all know, such religions are all going to end up in the "lake of fire" or utter destruction before Him. We know this, per Revelation 21:8 and Revelation 22:15.

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Greetings battleaxe, :D

Okay, please proceed with the reading of the "True Worship" article, looking up all bible citations provided.

However, after prayerfully considering that written material, next then, I'm going to leave you with a very, heavy statement ... found below.

And it is this... :shock:

We today, are exactly in the same position that Jesus was in his day, when he embarked upon his earthly ministry...

Yes, Jesus had the responsibility... to RESTORE PURE WORSHIP UPON EARTH...AN EARTH WIDE TASK...(Isaiah 42:4)

Thus, we today, with the start & beginning of the 144,000 in Jamaica, ...their gathering...we today have that exact, same assignment laid upon us today. (We can say this, because of the wicked activity and failures of "Oholah" & "Oholibah" Religions of our time, on an earth wide scale.) -- Ezekiel 23rd chapter

Remember, Ezekiel 23:36 & 45 tells us: Both "Oholah" & "Oholibah" must be "judged" by ... "righteous men," and those "righteous men," = the YORWW, of which you are a part. A very weighty assignment, indeed. :D

Indeed Ezekiel 23:36 & 45 plainly states our assignment, as the YORWW. It says:
  • (vs. 36) "And Jehovah went on to say to me: Son of man, will you judge Oholah and Oholibah and tell them their detestable things? ... (vs. 45) But as regards righteous men, they are the ones that will judge her with the judgment for adulteresses and with the judgment for female shedders of blood; for adulteresses are what they are, and there is blood on their hands." -- Ezekiel 23:36 & 45 New World Translation
In other words then we are saying, that we today, the small hub of YORWW worshipers, in our present state...added to those shortly to be miraculously joined to us in Jamaica of the 144,000 [See Isaiah 44:3-5] ... have the very same responsibility that Jesus had, a responsibility laid upon us to, again... RESTORE PURE WORSHIP ON THIS EARTH, Under the direction of (1) Jehovah God, (2) Jesus Christ and (3) the one appointed and called: "Elijah" of Matthew 17:11.

The Miraculous Gathering of the 144,000 in Jamaica, accomplished by the Hand of God, thus will be done suddenly, quickly and will shake-up the world, the entire earth! It will be the fulfillment of major bible prophecy, as shown at Isaiah 5:26, Psalms 68:31, Isaiah 41:18-20, Isaiah 43:19-21 and Isaiah 44:3-5...all done in Jamaica. :)

...that is our mission. (See Isaiah 49:6 about earth wide ministry of the Modern Day "Servant.")

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Hi all, :D

This bible argument, I believe is concise and to-the-point. It cuts-through-the-mustard, if you will.

Does anyone here know just how the following verses of bible prophecy, are viewed by Jehovah's Witnesses?

Has anyone ever decided to ask them or tried to talk with them about them?

For example take these ones:

Here are a few bible verses of prophecy, in which we could do this.

These verses were all taken from this blog, at this link: http://www.yorww.com/kingsbow.htm
  • Psalms 72:9 -- "...inhabitants of the waterless regions will bow down..."

    Psalms 72:10 -- "kings will pay tribute... and bring him many "gifts" ... [to appease him]

    Psalms 72:11 -- "all kings will prostate themselves to him...all nations will serve him."

    Psalms 102:15 -- "All the kings of the earth...will fear your glory."

    Psalms 138:4 -- "All the kings of the earth ... will laud [praise] you..."

    Isaiah 49:7 -- "...Kings and Princes...will "bow down" to him," ... [acknowledge his kingship]

    Isaiah 52:15 -- "... At him [Messianic king] Kings will shut their mouth...they will see" and give their "consideration" at this important matter.
Indeed as we examine the prophecies above, we can see clearly the "kings of the earth" are voluntarily acknowledging Jehovah's King, Jehovah's Messiah, even going to the point of "giving him gifts," to appease him. -- See Psalms 72:10.

Then too, there is Psalms 2:10-12, which shows the "kings of the earth" are invited by Jehovah, to "exercise insight" [NWT] and voluntarily "kiss the son," in submission. Why would this be done by God Almighty, if there were no chance of repentance on the "kings" parts? Why would God do this? Why would Jehovah give such an invitation to the "kings of the earth," and "rulers of the earth," as it plainly says?

Here is what Psalms 2:10-12 explicitly tells us:
  • 10 Therefore, you kings, be wise; be warned, you rulers of the earth.

    11 Serve the Lord with fear and celebrate his rule with trembling.

    12 Kiss his son, or he will be angry and your way will lead to your destruction,
    for his wrath can flare up in a moment. Blessed are all who take refuge in him. - New International Version
So then, we have to ask again, how do Jehovah's Witnesses personally view these verses, anyone know?

Most of us know, Jehovah's Witnesses certainly don't believe the "kings of the earth" of this world will ever, accept or acknowledge Jesus Christ, as God's King. Because they believe all of the "kings of the earth," will be destroyed by Jesus, at "Armageddon." (Rev. 16:16)

Perhaps someone, like maybe "battleaxe" could ask them [Jehovah's Witnesses] down in Jamaica when you see them, just how they see these verses?

Someone could ask them what do they think of them and what do these verses mean to them?

Would you be willing to do this, "battleaxe"?

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So "battleaxe," can we get you to ask some of the local Jehovah's Witnesses some of these questions, posed above?

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Shavuot -- Shavuot commemorates the anniversary of the day God gave the Torah to the entire nation of Israel assembled at Mount Sinai, although the association between the giving of the Torah (Matan Torah) and Shavuot is not explicit in the Biblical text. *** [See footnote below.]

The holiday is one of the Shalosh Regalim, the three Biblical pilgrimage festivals. It marks the conclusion of the Counting of the Omer, and its date is directly linked to that of Passover. The Torah mandates the seven-week Counting of the Omer, beginning on the second day of Passover, to be immediately followed by Shavuot. This counting of days and weeks is understood to express anticipation and desire for the giving of the Torah. On Passover, the people of Israel were freed from their enslavement to Pharaoh; on Shavuot they were given the Torah and became a nation committed to serving God. The word Shavuot means weeks, and the festival of Shavuot marks the completion of the seven-week counting period between Passover and Shavuot.


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***Footnote: Mt. Sinai or Mt. Horeb is known as the "Mountain of Jehovah" or the "Mountain of God," as shown at Exodus 3:1, Exodus 3:12, Exodus 19:2, 3, and 1 Kings 19:8. Yes, it becomes the exact same place where the "Law" of God, or "True Laws" [KJV] from Jehovah Himself, was given to Moses and the people of Israel. -- See Nehemiah 9:13, 14.

We recall, Paul once referred to this most, fearsome, awesome mountain, and the awe inspiring "display" shown there, when he reminded Christians of this Holy Place. He stated:

  • For you have not approached that which can be felt and which has been set aflame with fire, and a dark cloud and thick darkness and a tempest, and the blare of a trumpet and the voice of words; on hearing which voice the people implored that no word should be added to them. For the command was not bearable to them: "And if a beast touches the mountain, it must be stoned." Also, the display was so fearsome that Moses said: "I am fearful and trembling." -- See Hebrews 12:18-21 New World Translation; Also compare Revelation 11:19.


Therefore this special place, represents the permanent residence or "resting-place" of Jehovah on earth, His Permanent Earthly Address in a spiritual sense if you will, and thus should be viewed as THE ...THE place, where Jehovah can always be found, especially when "National Apostasy" has occurred. ("National Apostasy" occurs when the entire Nation itself is found "guilty" of Breaking the Law Covenant. When the "Sin" or "Transgression," has been committed by Israel, God's People. For example, see Leviticus 4:13-21 where the entire nation's sin must be atoned for, according to the Law of God.) It [Mt. Sinai/Mt. Horeb] is therefore, the place of origin where the "Law" of Jehovah was given to mankind, the "Holy Covenant of God," and the place all members of the "Holy Covenant" should go, in case for any reason the same-said nation should ever BREAK THAT COVENANT. (For example, this is the place the prophet "Elijah" went when the nation of Israel became an "apostate nation" [NWT] or "hypocritical nation" [KJV] -- See 1 Kings 19:8; Isaiah 10:6.)

All of this means of course, Apostasy in itself = the official DEPARTURE from that Law Covenant, forfeiting all of the blessings inherent in that Covenant also. (See Deuteronomy 28th Chapter for details.) Thus, Biblical "Apostasy" can be considered the OFFICIAL DEPARTURE from that same-said contract with God, or "Holy Covenant" with God, as well as the full departure from Divine "Truth" itself. Indeed, Mt. Horeb, Mt. Sinai, is that very special place, the only place in fact, where Jehovah God can always, always be found, because of National "Apostasy." -- See Daniel 11:30, for an example of this type of situation facing mankind, prophetically-speaking.

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Hi all, :)

Question To All: WHAT IS THE REAL REASON THE BIBLE CANNOT BE COMPLETELY UNDERSTOOD IN OUR DAY AND TIME?

See Link For Answer: http://livingwatersforum.com/phpBB3/vie ... f=30&t=802

...Its "scubadiving" time (Ezekiel 47:1-12) .... 8)

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Hi Battleaxe, :)

The information below is just a sample of what the YORWW 90-Day Online Bible Study Course is like.

After many of what we call the "color-coded" articles [like blue, orange, green and red color-coded articles], we have provided key questions to stimulate thought and help you to digest the particular information you are considering. Of course, along with the review questions, we also provide you with the "answers" to each question posed, by clicking the link at the end of the article.

Let's use the following information to try this *new* system out. That way you will get use to how the 90-Day Program works.

The article we are considering now is called a "blue-coded" article, because all the headings and links are the same color, blue. The different colors we use, rate the level of importance of the particular article you are considering...its level of importance to bible understanding.

Thanks,

Don 8)



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Review Questions For The Article: When "That Which Is Complete Arrives" (1 Cor. 13:10)

1. What hidden Divine Disclosure did Paul make as recorded at 1 Corinthians 13:8-10?

2. What is the official position of the Watchtower Society on when "that which is complete" will arrive?

3. Why is the year, 1914, not a good indicator of when understanding of Bible prophecy began increasing, and WTS’ continuing use of this date indicates that they lack what?

4. What does the Greek word "ainigmati" mean and what was Paul indicating when he used it at 1 Corinthians 13:12?

5. Jehovah’s superior wisdom is highlighted in the way that He allowed only a partial understanding of prophecy in the first century. What major prophecy, recorded in the first Bible book, has He withheld understanding of even up to our day that play a crucial role in the mystery of God being finished? (Revelation 10:7)

6. How does Revelation 5:1-4 demonstrate how Jehovah keeps humans from understanding prophecies that He does not want them to?

7. How is the one person worthy "to open these seals" identified at John 14:26, 15:26 and Isaiah 42:1, 6?

8. Understanding of the many "mysteries" of God found in the Bible is still hidden from all of mankind today. How does 2 Corinthians 12:4 describe these mysteries and why are they so designated?

9. Who will authorize the speaking of these "unlawful words" to mankind, by whom will they be spoken and to what purpose?

10. According to Joel 2:28-32, what event is yet to occur that brings into question what is taught by the Watchtower Society concerning whether the "gifts of the spirit" have ceased in our day?

11. In the first century was all authority invested in a few men who all had equal powers?

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14. The Watchtower Society uses 1 Corinthians 13:8-10 to support their view that the "gifts of the spirit" ceased in the first century. But when these verses are given a closer look, what do we learn that the Apostle Paul had reference to that was going to be done away with?

15. Why did Jehovah allow this hazy, indistinct and obscure understanding of prophecy found in the Greek text to persist down to our day?

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Hi Battleaxe, :)

Here is an interesting question to consider, for our spiritual growth...

What Does The "Ark of the Covenant" Mean For Us Today?

Here is the link:

http://www.yorww.com/arkofcov.htm

After reading over the article, and looking up the bible citations, let me know what you think of it.

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Hi Esoteric, :)

Keeping in mind the two (2) major "prostitute" religions of our time, namely the Churches of Christendom ["Oholah" Eze. 23] and the Jehovah's Witnesses Religion ["Oholibah" Eze. 23] have no explanation whatsoever for what the "Ark of the Covenant" might mean for us today, what would you say as a long-standing YORWW Member, the actual presence of the "Ark of the Covenant" on earth today, could and would signal for all mankind today, spiritually-speaking? (See Isaiah 11:10; Isaiah 49:6.)
  • English Standard Version Isaiah 11:10
  • In that day the root of Jesse, who shall stand as a signal for the peoples—of him shall the nations inquire, and his resting place shall be glorious.

    English Standard Version Isaiah 49:6
  • he says: “It is too light a thing that you should be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob and to bring back the preserved of Israel; I will make you as a light for the nations, that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth.”

After considering the above information, we would have to say these are elevated, "heaven-high thoughts" ... are they not? (See Isaiah 55:9.)

English Standard Version Isaiah 55:9
  • For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts.
And further does this not explain, just how the "Male Child" [or "Man Child" KJV] (which becomes a small group of Jehovah's Witnesses, who successfully escape the Jehovah's Witnesses apostate religion) gets "caught up unto God and to His Throne" [KJV], or to heaven, in our day and time? (See Rev. 12:5.)

Please see Revelation 12:5.
  • And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne. -- King James Version
Also see link to show just how this will occur: http://www.yorww.com/rev12.htm

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Hi battleaxe,

Sorry to hear you are not feeling well.

Just about everyone up here, has been battling sickness too...me included.

Anyway, I hope you get to feeling better soon.

We will be in touch.

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Hi Don,
Donald C. Burney wrote:
Keeping in mind the two (2) major "prostitute" religions of our time, namely the Churches of Christendom ["Oholah" Eze. 23] and the Jehovah's Witnesses Religion ["Oholibah" Eze. 23] have no explanation whatsoever for what the "Ark of the Covenant" might mean for us today, what would you say as a long-standing YORWW Member, the actual presence of the "Ark of the Covenant" on earth today, could and would signal for all mankind today, spiritually-speaking? (See Isaiah 11:10; Isaiah 49:6.)


I would say, the re-appearance of the "Ark of the Covenant" on earth today, has much meaning for us. It signals the coming of "light," spiritual light for all mankind. -- Isaiah 49:6

The reason the "Ark of the Covenant" is not understood today, is because all of the churches cannot place it within their doctrinal concept. They all have a "one-messiah/one-kingdom" concept. They can only see and understand the coming of only one messiah.

This is what is referred to in John 14:17 where it says:

King James Bible

  • Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.


Whereas in fact, we know the bible teaches there are actually two promised "messiahs" to come. Jesus and the Modern Day "Servant," the one we call the "Scapegoat," the one that is "atoned for." (Leviticus 16:10)

You see, no one today addresses the fact that the "Ark of the Covenant" had blood put upon it. They know the bible says it, but they offer no explanation at all. They simply dismiss it, as being meaningless or of no importance. But, this is a big mistake, in itself.

Leviticus 16:14, 15 tells us:

  • 14 He is to take some of the bull’s blood and with his finger sprinkle it on the front of the atonement cover; then he shall sprinkle some of it with his finger seven times before the atonement cover.
  • 15 “He shall then slaughter the goat for the sin offering for the people and take its blood behind the curtain and do with it as he did with the bull’s blood: He shall sprinkle it on the atonement cover and in front of it. -- New International Version


This particular clue (of the blood being placed upon it) had they had explored it, would have helped them see, the "Ark of the Covenant" pictured a special, designated human, a "man" that was to come to earth to lead people, as a "messiah" to God. To lead them far away from "apostasy" of "Oholah" and "Oholibah." (Eze. 23) This is the meaning of the prophecy, and what is clearly told to us at Zechariah 8:20-23.

  • 20 “Thus says the LORD of hosts, ‘It will yet be that peoples will come, even the inhabitants of many cities.
  • 21 ‘The inhabitants of one will go to another, saying, “Let us go at once to entreat the favor of the LORD, and to seek the LORD of hosts; I will also go.”
  • 22 ‘So many peoples and mighty nations will come to seek the LORD of hosts in Jerusalem and to entreat the favor of the LORD.’
  • 23 “Thus says the LORD of hosts, ‘In those days ten men from all the nations will grasp the garment of a Jew, saying, “Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.”’” -- Zechariah 8:20-23 New International Version


Thus "many peoples," and even "mighty nations," will "entreat the favor of the LORD [Jehovah]," all obediently following this newly appointed "messiah" of God's making, for our modern day and time. The particular "Jew" that all will readily "grasp the garment of" and say to him,

  • 23 " ... Let us go with you [messiah], for we have heard that God is with you [messiah]." -- Compare also with Psalms 18:43, 44 and Isaiah 45:14.


So, it has been foretold to come in bible prophecy, which makes this situation, inevitable. Nothing can stop it.

Once revealed to mankind by the YORWW, God's "New Song" [Rev. 14:3] then, must be "preached from the housetops," for all to hear. We today, who are a part of the YORWW, have that distinct privilege to preach this message. -- Deut. 29:29; Psalms 96:1; Luke 12:3

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How Does One Lone Nation ... Come To Be Called "Israel"?
Sometimes people want to know, just how the YORWW differentiates between "Oholah" and "Oholibah" [Eze. 23]. Well, we point to approximately 40 basic fundamental, elementary truths and beliefs as taught by Jehovah's Witnesses, that are quite different from the beliefs of the Churches of Christendom.

You can find a list of these 40 Basic Fundamental Truths at this link: http://www.yorww.com/basics.html

... And a breakdown and discussion of each of these beliefs at this link: viewforum.php?f=18

These fundamental, elementary beliefs held by Jehovah's Witnesses is what distinguishes them to be "Israel" of bible prophecy, the same way Israel of old was given special laws from God which distinguished them from all other nations.

Deuteronomy 26:16-19 tells us what distinguished Israel originally,

  • 16 “This day the LORD your God commands you to do these statutes and rules. You shall therefore be careful to do them with all your heart and with all your soul.
  • 17 You have declared today that the LORD is your God, and that you will walk in his ways, and keep his statutes and his commandments and his rules, and will obey his voice.
  • 18 And the LORD has declared today that you are a people for his treasured possession, as he has promised you, and that you are to keep all his commandments,
  • 19 and that he will set you in praise and in fame and in honor high above all nations that he has made, and that you shall be a people holy to the LORD your God, as he promised.” -- English Standard Version


Deuteronomy 7:6, 12 also tells us:

  • 6 “For you are a people holy to the LORD your God. The LORD your God has chosen you to be a people for his treasured possession, out of all the peoples who are on the face of the earth. (Compare Jeremiah 33:8, 9, which makes the same point, namely that wicked, apostate Israel, a smaller remnant of the nation that is, must be "restored" and regain her favored status with God once again, one day.)
  • 12 “And because you listen to these rules and keep and do them, the LORD your God will keep with you the covenant and the steadfast love that he swore to your fathers. -- English Standard Version


Of course we know, Israel "did not continue" in that Law Covenant and "did not continue" to follow God's Laws, and were eventually cast off as being "apostate," and wicked, just as we know the majority, that is a "two-thirds" majority of Jehovah's Witnesses will suffer the same fate, shortly. (Zechariah 13:8, 9) Jehovah's Witnesses do not know ... the "Judgment of Jehovah." (See Jeremiah 8:7.) Hence, the name of the book we have written, The "Report" book. -- See Hebrews 8:9; Ezekiel 21:6, 7.

(See pages 31-36 of the "Report" Book, for more information on this topic.)

Again, the scene at Mt. Sinai or Mt. Horeb, should stay vivid in our minds and remind us all of how one lone nation came to be called "Israel," and was allowed to Meet God at His Special Resting Place...in the wilderness. But remember ... God Chose Them, But They Did Not Choose God. -- See Deuteronomy 7:7.

See link: http://www.yorww.com/horeb.htm

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A Special Commission To All Who Are Willing To Preach To Jehovah's Witnesses...The "Rebellious" House
Ezekiel Chapter 2 English Standard Version
  • 1 And he said to me, “Son of man, stand on your feet, and I will speak with you.”
  • 2 And as he spoke to me, the Spirit entered into me and set me on my feet, and I heard him speaking to me.
  • 3 And he said to me, “Son of man, I send you to the people of Israel, to nations of rebels, who have rebelled against me. They and their fathers have transgressed against me to this very day.
  • 4 The descendants also are impudent and stubborn: I send you to them, and you shall say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord GOD.’
  • 5 And whether they hear or refuse to hear (for they are a rebellious house) they will know that a prophet has been among them.
  • 6 And you, son of man, be not afraid of them, nor be afraid of their words, though briers and thorns are with you and you sit on scorpions. Be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, for they are a REBELLIOUS HOUSE.
  • 7 And you shall speak my words to them, whether they hear or refuse to hear, for they are a REBELLIOUS HOUSE.
  • 8 “But you, son of man, hear what I say to you. Be not rebellious like that rebellious house; open your mouth and eat what I give you.”
  • 9 And when I looked, behold, a hand was stretched out to me, and behold, a scroll of a book was in it.
  • 10 And he spread it before me. And it had writing on the front and on the back, and there were written on it words of lamentation and mourning and woe. -- See also Ezekiel 43:6-12.


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Hi battleaxe, :)

At Revelation 12:4, 5 we read some very interesting bible prophecy, that is quite appropriate for our times...this Spring of 2015.

It states:

English Standard Version Revelation Chapter 12
  • 4 His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth. And the dragon stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it.
  • 5 She [the "woman"] gave birth to a male child, one who is to rule all the nations with a rod of iron, but her child was caught up to God and to his throne,
A very curious question could be raised at this point:

(a) Who is pictured by this mysterious figure of the "Male Child" or "Man Child" [KJV] of Revelation 12:4, 5 ... someone that is destined for earth wide "rulership" [Daniel 2:44]? Someone, that Satan really hates...someone he wickedly wants to "devour" immediately when born.

(b) And also, who is pictured by the "woman" who mysteriously, yes UNEXPECTEDLY ... "gave birth" to this powerful "Male Child" of God's Choosing?

Do you know?

Remember, the Churches of Christendom [Oholah] and the Jehovah's Witnesses [Oholibah] do not have even a clue, as to how to answer these important questions that have plagued mankind for centuries, yes milleniums of years even. The same way they don't have a clue as to who the 144,000 are, and why that particular number of 144,000 has been chosen by Jehovah God, in the first place. Yes, the whole world is in the dark on this one. -- Ezekiel 23; Revelation 14:1-5.

But, Jehovah has revealed this [sacred] secret information to the YORWW...to us. -- See Amos 3:7; Deuteronomy 29:29.

So, let's examine closely, the following blog shown at this link, to see if we can "find" the answer [Matthew 7:7, 8, 13, 14]:

http://www.yorww.com/rev12.htm

After reading, let me know who or what do you think is pictured by (a) the "Woman," and (b) the "Male Child" of Revelation 12:4, 5 of our modern time.

Thanks, :)

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Hi "battleaxe": :)
battleaxe wrote:Greetings Chieftain,
My understanding of Rev.12, verse 5, regarding the male child points directly to you Chief Don Burney, and verse (2) which says, And she being with child, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered, from my understanding, points to the Jehovahs Witness Organization, from whence you came forth, then the woman who would be YORWW was sent to the wilderness, to be fed by Jehovah Himself.

Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Eeden.
Well, what I would like for you to do is give consideration to the contents of the following information. It has the answers to those questions that you seek.

See this link:

http://www.yorww.com/rev12.htm

However, if you have already read over this material, then let me know and I will provide the answers, in my next post. No problem. :D

Thanks,

Don 8)
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